oldgrumpy
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Post by oldgrumpy on Oct 9, 2015 9:04:02 GMT
Then there's this (lifted from another thread) OG said: Oh my, oh my!!
16297, another wonderful A+ opportunity at fixed rate 8.3% (less 1% as fee) ....
.... except that the loan it will partly be replacing is assessed as a band C risk at 10.8% (less 1% as fee).... just 18 months ago.
Haven't they done well!?
(The company, not Funky Chrysanthemums)
I wonder whether FC have eased their criteria for A+ and A loans; there are an awful lot of them these days.
BTW, I am on full wind down from FC now, as repayments arrive, and sales (gradually) succeed (mainly rubbish rates still, but some people are buying them!)
Feeble Communicators still adamantly refuse to explain why apparently anomalous risk banding is presented to us. All I have ever wanted is a reason for FC's choice of risk band when it seems odd. In their arrogance they say "no", and for months have given less and less information while asking us to invest.
Time's up.
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registerme
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Post by registerme on Oct 9, 2015 10:13:03 GMT
FC have, on at least one occasion that I am aware of, stated that the quality of the "personal guarantee is a factor in the risk rating" (I may be paraphrasing here). And we don't ever get sight of what makes the PG....... This one'll make you chuckle... 49% shareholder, married to the other 51%, is now - apparently - a "non-involved director", so the PG is invalid... . Blimey. Is that for real?
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adrianc
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Post by adrianc on Oct 9, 2015 10:15:24 GMT
Blimey. Is that for real? 6521 (A, 8 of 60 repayments made, £50k originally borrowed @ 9.6%) and 2295 (A, 23 of 60, £100k @ 7.7%)
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registerme
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Post by registerme on Oct 9, 2015 10:18:53 GMT
Thanks adrianc, that's pretty horrible. If the valuation of the PG by FC was that erroneous would you (should you?) not expect FC to step in and wear it?
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Post by adrianc on Oct 9, 2015 10:21:49 GMT
It's going to court. Let's see what happens there.
Reading between the lines, I suspect that the recoveries team probably have these people's photos on their dartboard, and voodoo dolls in their desk drawers.
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arbster
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Post by arbster on Oct 9, 2015 10:26:18 GMT
Thanks adrianc, that's pretty horrible. If the valuation of the PG by FC was that erroneous would you (should you?) not expect FC to step in and wear it? Clearly FC don't believe it was erroneous. Without knowing any of the details, I hope the court finds in FC's favour and recovers all funds - less than half way into both loans they really should be able to lay their hands on the majority of the money, and are clearly trying to defraud a lot of people. That said, they probably paid a great deal to their "advisor" (another non-involved relative, I imagine) over that protracted period.
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registerme
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Post by registerme on Oct 9, 2015 10:28:24 GMT
Fair points adrianc and arbster. I guess that question should be asked again after the court case is resolved.
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Post by blender on Oct 9, 2015 11:47:09 GMT
Whatever the quality of the PG, we can see FC recoveries doing the job that lenders would hope to see in this case. I can have sympathy for the 'can't pays' who may have spent their cash trying to keep the business afloat, but the 'won't pays' have to be pursued to court if FC wishes to be credible. Borrowers should take advice before signing and should understand their contingent liability.
There is this problem with taking guarantees from people who wish to limit their personal liability in the business, and will not take a charge on personal assets. Probably some think they can wriggle out of the guarantee if they have to. But with p2p it is usually someone else's savings that are lost - or taken.
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spyrogyra
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Post by spyrogyra on Oct 13, 2015 18:58:52 GMT
And the avalanche of bad looking A loans has no end! I already wonder is there someone evil minded doing this on purpose!
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