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Jul 21, 2024 21:11:11 GMT
Post by overthehill on Jul 21, 2024 21:11:11 GMT
Suddenly, Trump's golden week or so is in the past. The big question is whether the US can bear to vote for a black woman as opposed to an orange pensioner.
A first white woman US president was always the half measures chicken korma, this is going to be the full bhuna.
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Trump
Jul 21, 2024 23:55:15 GMT
Post by captainconfident on Jul 21, 2024 23:55:15 GMT
My comment on this subject, it will be Harris, and she is rather difficult for the republicans to attack without coming off as repulsive. Well, more obviously repulsive than usual.
I don't think Trump is much of a draw for female voters, and Harris is going to get out black voters. I think those facts alone put her in the White House. The average American is not as mad as they seem and this Christo-nationalist stuff is a turn-off for most people with a mediocum of education. Trumps actual constituency will turn out to be quite limited.
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Trump
Jul 22, 2024 5:40:35 GMT
Post by bracknellboy on Jul 22, 2024 5:40:35 GMT
My comment on this subject, it will be Harris, and she is rather difficult for the republicans to attack without coming off as repulsive. Well, more obviously repulsive than usual. I don't think Trump is much of a draw for female voters, and Harris is going to get out black voters. I think those facts alone put her in the White House. The average American is not as mad as they seem and this Christo-nationalist stuff is a turn-off for most people with a mediocum of education. Trumps actual constituency will turn out to be quite limited. Not so much of a hurry. What is the evidence that Harris will get out the black vote out? She is not particularly popular in general, with her approval ratings having only very recently come up to those of Biden's (which are of course not terribly good). And IIRC, having her as VEEP has not done much to bolster the black vote for the democrats. There is a fair undercurrent of deep rooted racism in large swathes of the US. And frankly also a sub-conscious semi misogynistic undercurrent, as surfaced by some of the near "Hand Maidens Tale" policies that are being proposed or enacted in some quarters. Yes there is overlap in those groups, but not equivalence. Many of the hardest of those are going to be "Forever Trump" supporters. Some however will be of the more marginal Trump/Rep/swing voters, that need to be 'swung' to a democrat ticket. If the Democratic agenda is "Keep Trump out" then I would be concerned about KH stepping up to the plate: sad to say, but from that perspective having a black woman as the candidate could carry a double whammy of potential risk. Even if she does help to bring out more of the black vote (and that is certainly questionable) it could easily be offset by turning off others that they need.
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Jul 22, 2024 6:36:22 GMT
Post by Greenwood2 on Jul 22, 2024 6:36:22 GMT
At least they will be able to play the age card now. Theoretically Harris should get a lot of the non-white, immigrant vote and female vote, but Trump supporters don't seem to care about the racist and misogynistic things he says, and now he has God on his side. Not that I think Harris is likely to win, but I still think if Trump doesn't win there will be huge trouble in the US.
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Trump
Jul 22, 2024 6:41:46 GMT
Post by bracknellboy on Jul 22, 2024 6:41:46 GMT
At least they will be able to play the age card now. Theoretically Harris should get a lot of the non-white, immigrant vote and female vote, but Trump supporters don't seem to care about the racist and misogynistic things he says, and now he has God on his side. Not that I think Harris is likely to win, but I still think if Trump doesn't win there will be huge trouble in the US. for sure she is a better bet than Biden had become. Although that still may be difficult given that she had supported Biden's run etc.: it can easily be turned around and used against her.
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Jul 22, 2024 9:04:36 GMT
Post by rscal on Jul 22, 2024 9:04:36 GMT
Tell me t'ain't so:
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Jul 22, 2024 12:29:56 GMT
Post by jo on Jul 22, 2024 12:29:56 GMT
The California child catcher endorses Harris? Hrmm, not sure Tammany Hall The DNC is as on board with a presumptive coronation. link
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Post by captainconfident on Jul 22, 2024 14:24:07 GMT
Unfortunately for Trump (78), he's spent months producing quotes about a decrepit old white guy in mental decline being unsuitable for the presidency.
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Jul 22, 2024 15:38:19 GMT
Post by travolta on Jul 22, 2024 15:38:19 GMT
Enter George Clooney ,stage left . Well he wont be the first to act the part ... Any other thespians queuing up?
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Jul 22, 2024 17:22:41 GMT
Post by registerme on Jul 22, 2024 17:22:41 GMT
By Sunday, following Biden's standing down, Harris had raised about $50m. By the same time today it was north of $80m.
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Post by captainconfident on Jul 22, 2024 17:36:57 GMT
By Sunday, following Biden's standing down, Harris had raised about $50m. By the same time today it was north of $80m. Yes but Elon Musk is giving Trump $46m a month. Think what it adds up to if you include the donations of all the other billionaires. I'm not sure what they want, but apparently its a better cause than helping the worlds poor.
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Jul 22, 2024 21:31:50 GMT
Post by michaelc on Jul 22, 2024 21:31:50 GMT
The world's greatest democracy.
Where the average guy can become leader.
So long as he has access to a billion dollars.
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Trump
Jul 23, 2024 17:39:25 GMT
Post by captainconfident on Jul 23, 2024 17:39:25 GMT
What about the average gal, eh?
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Jul 23, 2024 19:36:12 GMT
Post by registerme on Jul 23, 2024 19:36:12 GMT
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Jul 23, 2024 20:01:25 GMT
Post by michaelc on Jul 23, 2024 20:01:25 GMT
What about the average gal, eh? What about the average non-binary ?
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