adrianc
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Jul 1, 2024 16:39:47 GMT
Post by adrianc on Jul 1, 2024 16:39:47 GMT
I see the Supreme Court has now ruled that Presidents do have immunity from prosecution for official actions within the boundaries of their office but not for those carried out in a personal or private manner. Yes, an interesting little caveat, and one that the lawyers will be sharpening their invoices gleefully at. Was there ever?
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Jul 1, 2024 17:07:01 GMT
Post by registerme on Jul 1, 2024 17:07:01 GMT
I guess this gives Biden some "potentially interesting" legal cover.
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Post by keitha on Jul 1, 2024 17:12:59 GMT
I see the Supreme Court has now ruled that Presidents do have immunity from prosecution for official actions within the boundaries of their office but not for those carried out in a personal or private manner. Yes, an interesting little caveat, and one that the lawyers will be sharpening their invoices gleefully at. Was there ever? but but but I was in my office when I encouraged the Jan 6 protests
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Post by agent69 on Jul 1, 2024 17:25:34 GMT
I see the Supreme Court has now ruled that Presidents do have immunity from prosecution for official actions within the boundaries of their office but not for those carried out in a personal or private manner. Zero chance of the uprising charges coming to trial before the election So while in office if he instructs the navy seals to assassinate a political opponent he has immunity, but if he phones up Rudy Giuliani and asks him to spread rumours that the election was fixed he doesn't?
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Jul 3, 2024 16:42:29 GMT
Post by overthehill on Jul 3, 2024 16:42:29 GMT
Election boost for Donald Trump and his sick supporters
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Post by bracknellboy on Jul 3, 2024 17:02:36 GMT
Election boost for Donald Trump and his sick supporters
except that it was concluded that it was an entirely fabricated story.
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adrianc
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Post by adrianc on Jul 3, 2024 22:18:24 GMT
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Jul 4, 2024 16:10:25 GMT
Post by michaelc on Jul 4, 2024 16:10:25 GMT
I just don't understand why anyone would want to spread stuff that is clearly false unless perhaps they are:
a/ directly involved b/ have no morals
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Jul 4, 2024 16:24:38 GMT
Post by angrysaveruk on Jul 4, 2024 16:24:38 GMT
I just don't understand why anyone would want to spread stuff that is clearly false unless perhaps they are: a/ directly involved b/ have no morals Problem is there are often no penalties for making totally false allegations of this nature, even if the allegations are proved to be a fabrication. I assume the argument is if there were such penalties it would discourage victims coming forward. If you are joe public with little more to your name than an overdraft and a big mortgage the chances of someone making a false allegation against you are pretty low. If you are a wealthy celebrity the chances are a lot higher. If you are Donald Trump - well basically you need to have spent your entire life living in a bunker by yourself with a CCTV on you 24/7 proving you did not do anything or you might find you are swamped with allegations. * * - I am not saying whether some of the allegations against Trump are true or false, I am merely pointing out the possibility he might be a target for false allegations based on his wealth, celebrity and notoriety
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adrianc
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Jul 4, 2024 17:03:28 GMT
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Post by adrianc on Jul 4, 2024 17:03:28 GMT
I just don't understand why anyone would want to spread stuff that is clearly false unless perhaps they are: a/ directly involved b/ have no morals Well... <looks at thread title for principal spreader of verifiable falsehoods> We do not know the allegations are false. We only know that they were retracted before they could be tested in a court. There may be a number of reasons for that, as Virginia Giuffre and Prince Andrew understand well.
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Post by bracknellboy on Jul 4, 2024 17:50:13 GMT
I just don't understand why anyone would want to spread stuff that is clearly false unless perhaps they are:a/ directly involved b/ have no morals but then the same is true of Trump himself right ? I mean he regularly 'trumpets' complete falsehoods as if they are truth. And encourages his acolytes to do the same. But yet you are a self proclaimed fan of Trump, so your lack of understanding clearly isn't putting you off him ? Or is it because he actually does tick both a) and b) mean you do understand and are therefore OK with it ?
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adrianc
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Jul 4, 2024 18:23:32 GMT
Post by adrianc on Jul 4, 2024 18:23:32 GMT
I just don't understand why anyone would want to spread stuff that is clearly false unless perhaps they are:a/ directly involved b/ have no morals but then the same is true of Trump himself right ? I mean he regularly 'trumpets' complete falsehoods as if they are truth. And encourages his acolytes to do the same. But yet you are a self proclaimed fan of Trump, so your lack of understanding clearly isn't putting you off him ? Or is it because he actually does tick both a) and b) mean you do understand and are therefore OK with it ? Double-negative...?
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Post by angrysaveruk on Jul 4, 2024 18:29:48 GMT
I just don't understand why anyone would want to spread stuff that is clearly false unless perhaps they are:a/ directly involved b/ have no morals but then the same is true of Trump himself right ? I mean he regularly 'trumpets' complete falsehoods as if they are truth. And encourages his acolytes to do the same. But yet you are a self proclaimed fan of Trump, so your lack of understanding clearly isn't putting you off him ? Or is it because he actually does tick both a) and b) mean you do understand and are therefore OK with it ?
Trump is not alone in his ability to lie to the electorate, successful politicians are nearly all convincing liars. In my opinion Trump actually believes alot of what he says, which is why he is credible to most of the electorate in the US. He is very much in the Alt Right conspiracy theory camp where the truth has alot of grey areas*.
- A good example of this is how he was one of the early advocates of 9/11 conspiracy theories.
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Jul 4, 2024 18:36:44 GMT
Post by adrianc on Jul 4, 2024 18:36:44 GMT
Trump is not alone in his ability to lie to the electorate, sucessful politicians are nearly all convincing liars. In my opinion Trump actually believes alot of what he says, which is why he is credible to most of the electorate in the US. He is very much in the Alt Right conspiracy theory camp where the truth has alot of grey areas*. - A good example of this is how he was one of the early advocates of 9/11 conspiracy theories. Not alone in ability. Unique in scale. Another tier, even, from Johnson.
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Post by angrysaveruk on Jul 4, 2024 18:44:07 GMT
Trump is not alone in his ability to lie to the electorate, sucessful politicians are nearly all convincing liars. In my opinion Trump actually believes alot of what he says, which is why he is credible to most of the electorate in the US. He is very much in the Alt Right conspiracy theory camp where the truth has alot of grey areas*. - A good example of this is how he was one of the early advocates of 9/11 conspiracy theories. Not alone in ability. Unique in scale. Another tier, even, from Johnson.
Bigger than even Tony Blair and his dossier of Weapons of Mass Destruction that led to millions of dead middle easterners?
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